Hoangalicious
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Nice to see Jason Aldean's sales went up!
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Sales from USA Today - 2/16/11
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CarrieFan928
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^What are you talking about? "Their next album 'Dark Horse' did not sell remotely close to Carnival Ride though." Dark Horse has a 3x Platinum certification and has outsold CR. The Fame has recently gone 4x Platinum and The Fame Monster has sold around 1.4 copies so combined they still don't sell enough to surpass Some Hearts. Although it is a bit unfair to compare. A 5x Platinum album would probably be 10x Platinum 5 years ago. Mariah Carey's "failure" album released in 2001 has sold around 700,000 copies. That's around the same amount as Kesha, Kenny Chesney, The Black Eyed Peas, Kelly Clarkson, John Mayer, Rascal Flatts, and Linkin Park's latest albums, to name a few.
clh_hilary
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Oh I didn't know "Dark Horse" sold that much haha. Anyway it's hard for an album to sell over 3 million copies after the end of 2007 (which "Carnival Ride" did). I believe only Taylor Swift's "Fearless", Eminem's "Recovery", Lady Antebellum's "Need You Now", Lil Wayne's "Rebirth" (or was this from 2007?), Susan Boyle's "I Dreamed A Dream", Lady GaGa's "The Fame"/"The Fame Monster", Amy Winehouse's "Back To Black"(?) did. Taylor Swift's "Speak Now" should pass that soon though. And somehow Susan Boyle's "The Gift" and some Justin Bieber albums have the chance to.
juliaandavisgoldenheart
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Um when Nickbacks album went 8x platinum it had sold 7.23 million copies and is at about 7.42 million now so yes 7.3 million is enough to go eight times platinum certs are based on shipments not sales. that's how albums like Musicbox and Daydream are diamond when they've sold 7.2 & 7.7 million respectively and Carrie's also going to be on Tony Bennett's duets 2 album that's due out in september along with Amy Whinehouse Josh Groban Mariah Carey & Michael Buble amongst others Duets an American Classic which came out 5 years ago went platinum and won a grammy for best Jazz album
Pi314CA
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It's interesting to note that Carnival Ride was certified 3x Platinum on 1/12/2010 per RIAA website. Yet, in actual sales, CR reached 3 million during the 11/29/2009 week. That is six weeks after the fact. Perhaps in this era, certifications happen much much closer to actual sales than before.
As a comparison, SH was certified 7x Platinum on 2/6/2008. At that date, actual sales was 6.25 million... a whopping 750,000 less than 7 million.
The single Last Name reached Platinum two weeks ago, and yet it is not Platinum per the RIAA website as of today.
As a comparison, SH was certified 7x Platinum on 2/6/2008. At that date, actual sales was 6.25 million... a whopping 750,000 less than 7 million.
The single Last Name reached Platinum two weeks ago, and yet it is not Platinum per the RIAA website as of today.
juliaandavisgoldenheart
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the label has to apply for and pay for certifications they may have done so and the RIAA just hasn't certified it yet. to a previous poster the Glitter Soundtrack has actually sold about 765,000 copies since it's release September 11th 2001 and shipped more than A million rebirth was released in February of 2010 while little Wayne was in jail and has sold about 1,000,000 copies it was the Carter III that was released in 2008 and sold over 3,000,000 copies in the Us a million of those in the first week after this week Speak Now will be at 3.2 million and inching towards 4x platinum
clh_hilary
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There are less physical music stores now, "Some Hearts" is not one of the best-selling albums weekly now, physical albums gone down now, of course you'll need to have closer actual sales to get the certification now.
juliaandavisgoldenheart
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No neccessarily it's still based on shipments and multi-platinum awards have only been around about 35 years for example The Eagles Hotel California has sold something like 16.7 million copies since it's 1976 release but has yet to be certified 17x platinum and sells about 10k annually but who knows since it's their best selling studio album Assulym records might decide to remaster it for it's 35th anniversary in December and it went platinum in less than a week of original release then 9x in 1990 10 in 1994 14 in 1995 & 16 in 2001 kind of like Greatest hits 71-75 should be 30x plat now as it still sells in access of 200k annually and it was certified 29x plat 5 years ago as does Michael Jackson's thriller which went 29x plat 2 years ago right before what would've been his 51st birthday he was the 8th of 10 children 9 surviving. his brother Marlon had a tin named Brandon who died shortly after birth Marlon was 17 1/2 months older than Michael
the jackson siblings go as folllows
Rebbie Born May 29th 1950
Jackie born May 4th 1951
Tito Born October 15th 1953
Jermaine Born December 11th 1954
Latoya Born May 29th 1956
Marlon & Brandon Born March 12th 1957
Michael Born August 29th 1958-died June 25th 2009
Randy Born October 31st 1961
& Janet Born May 16th 1966 [mom Katherine was 36 when Janet Was Born a big deal then}
the jackson siblings go as folllows
Rebbie Born May 29th 1950
Jackie born May 4th 1951
Tito Born October 15th 1953
Jermaine Born December 11th 1954
Latoya Born May 29th 1956
Marlon & Brandon Born March 12th 1957
Michael Born August 29th 1958-died June 25th 2009
Randy Born October 31st 1961
& Janet Born May 16th 1966 [mom Katherine was 36 when Janet Was Born a big deal then}
clh_hilary
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Sorry but again your examples are pretty irrelevant, we are now in 2011 not 35 years ago. The industry is different, the economy is different, the buying public has different preferences now. Yes it's still base on shipment but what makes the shipments much higher than actual sales are base on a few factors: huge Music Clubs sales (which basically don't exist now), being a 'current' album as in having current hit singles and selling nicely (like, at least making the Top 50) weekly ("Some Hearts" is not) - since a record store is unlikely to keep high stock for the top-1000-selling albums every week, but more like huge stock for Top 20, handful of copies for Top 40-50 and limited stock for the rest, expected to sell big afterwards ("Some Hearts" is not expected to sell much more -- it's going to sell nicely in the next few years, but it's not like it's guaranteed to sell any numbers or is going to move millions of copies within a few months or a year) -- like following a death or something (by the time Carrie releases her next album the stock for SH may go higher due to this factor), massive amounts of physical music stores (which is so not the situation now). Not to mention people now prefer buying digital music (be it digital tracks or albums) which makes shipment much more closer to actual sales than ever.
Another important factor is the label's willingness in over-certifying the album. SH was an album from 6 years ago and it being 8xPlatinum would not suddenly give Carrie a big boost since she's already pretty successful and SH was already proven to be a great seller anyway. It's not like the label will intentionally overship SH all of a sudden to get that certification. In addition to that, her label might want to give her the confirmation of the certification on some big occassions or wait for some other certifications as well before announcing it, in order to use it as a tool to create some buzz.