'Cry Pretty' chart updates

[jaymiee]

I'm not gonna lie I'm disappointed it didnt go #1 but at the same time I think it did exactly what Carrie wanted. Helped her get back into the spotlight and that performance at the ACM awards was magical

I think overall it was summer and bottom line people werent going to be at parties and on the lake drinking beer while listening to Cry Pretty(Although I was many times) If she had a fun upbeat song (Southbound?) it would have shot to #1 no problem but I dont think that was the end goal for this song. It wouldnt have made sense for her to come back and sing a fun upbeat song like nothing ever happened

 

[Carrieslegs84]

I fully believe UMG realizes they messed up hence the desperate push to make the peak not so low. I also believe as a result of this they will make sure they can get LW as many weeks as possible at #1 (similar to WB did with Blake on his follow up single to SGAWW after it broke his streak)

I think they’ve must’ve seen the writing on the wall & decided to cut their losses & move on to the 2nd single.I think they realized that they messed up hence the desperate push to not make CP peak so low.I’m pretty sure that they’ve learned their lessons from this blunder & make sure that the 2nd single can get to #1 & stay there for as many weeks as possible.


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[pklongbeach]

Do you all think that the wider, mainstream country audience just really didn't like CP? I hate to generalize a whole base of people that listen to country, because I have been one of those people at times in my life, but it does seem like the mainstream country audience just wants their artists to stay in their little boxes and put out the same kind of music over and over. I mean, even Keith Urban, who is probably one of the progressive men out there has done it VERY gradually and really it still sounds like pretty classic Keith Urban, just maybe a bit poppier. Luke always sounds the same. Kenny. FGL. Jason Aldean's newer music may sound better than some of his more recent stuff, but really it just sounds like the "old" Jason before bro country took over - back when I actually liked Jason's music and he first came out. Do you think that maybe the general, mainstream country music audience just can't deal with a new sound from Carrie? They like maneater Carrie and inspirational Carrie, but they aren't used to a more emotional, introspective Carrie, so they didn't get on board with CP? It's just speculation on my part, but country music, more than any other genre, I think, likes it's artists to stay in their lane.

Personally, I'm all for artists evolving and staying fresh/progressive, otherwise they end up like poor Brad Paisley and the schtick wears off eventually.

I absolutely think this. We can go in any direction we want to with blame. But if the song hit with audiences and audiences responded with enthusiasm, it would not matter what "strategy" UMG might have had, it would change to meet the interest people were showing in the song. All the way across the board the song was not resonating. Yes at radio, but also in streaming and sales. It always felt like an album track to me. It never felt like a mainstream Pop/Country hit. So none of this is surprising. And I don't think its surprising to UMG either.
I still feel like the "strategy" was to get her back in the public. Get her on Idol. Get her to the ACM's. And I think this was sort of a come back from a difficult period for her. Great! So then, it did not need to go to radio as a legitimate Lead Single! That's the perception problem that we fans are struggling with. Not that the song was bad or that what it did for live performances was disappointing. I think what it did was great. It just was not a Lead Single to a new era. And it should not have been used as such.
I know nothing about the new single, but I will view it as more of the single to launch the era. And I am looking very forward to it. I pray its more in keeping with what we are hearing from current country artists and not Carrie having to continue to prove to her peers that she is a legitimate country artist by singing about smoking & guns & alcohol. I want the smooth upbeat popular Carrie who could wind her voice around a lyric and a melody like no one and make it sound effortless!
Let's go forward Upbeat, happy and confident! Love Wins!!!

 

[PRGuy79]

So disappointing. And I believe it is unacceptable. Carrie deserved better - as an artist and as a superstar - especially on the first album with their label. Not sure where things went wrong along the way or who specifically is responsible, but I hope whatever adjustments are needed are implemented in time to make single #2 a smash hit.

 

[PRGuy79]

Do we know yet where the song peaked on Billboard Country Airplay? #6 on Mediabase.

 

[maddkat]

Do we know yet where the song peaked on Billboard Country Airplay? #6 on Mediabase.

probably be #10,but we won't know for sure till tonight

 

[pklongbeach]

,,and to PRGuy79's point, I do think it was mishandled! No doubt this song could have been a #1. Radio may not have loved it but they were certainly spinning it. And had UMG leaned in and had radio focus on it, if only for a couple of weeks, it would have made it. It was VERY clear that they focused on KU beyond what was neccessary for that single. And the minute it was done they leap-frogged right over Carrie to put full focus on "Sunburn"! That was a fatal blow to CP. It was never going to survive that. I think we all knew it..... And of course UMG knew it also. It was absolutely their decision to do that. SSS is having an amazing run. And it clobbered CP with no effort at all. Thats because Radio likes it, the audience thinks it pleasent, and UMG is in full support.....
Take Away: Carrie chose UMG. I am confident UMG gave her much wooing and promises. I am certain there was no where in the negotiations where they said "we warn you now Ms.Underwood if there are two male artists on either side of you on the charts and we have to choose, we will NOT be choosing you!" I am sure the conversation was more like "Ms.Underwood we are thrilled and ecstatic that you would consider us to support you and in that commitment know that we will work tirelessly to give you every advantage that any artist in the entire industry would having in giving your artistry and your work the top level of support and exposure to the public and audience!". Pretty sure that is how it went...…. And so far...…. they lied!!

 

[maddkat]

Do you all think that the wider, mainstream country audience just really didn't like CP? I hate to generalize a whole base of people that listen to country, because I have been one of those people at times in my life, but it does seem like the mainstream country audience just wants their artists to stay in their little boxes and put out the same kind of music over and over. I mean, even Keith Urban, who is probably one of the progressive men out there has done it VERY gradually and really it still sounds like pretty classic Keith Urban, just maybe a bit poppier. Luke always sounds the same. Kenny. FGL. Jason Aldean's newer music may sound better than some of his more recent stuff, but really it just sounds like the "old" Jason before bro country took over - back when I actually liked Jason's music and he first came out. Do you think that maybe the general, mainstream country music audience just can't deal with a new sound from Carrie? They like maneater Carrie and inspirational Carrie, but they aren't used to a more emotional, introspective Carrie, so they didn't get on board with CP? It's just speculation on my part, but country music, more than any other genre, I think, likes it's artists to stay in their lane.

Personally, I'm all for artists evolving and staying fresh/progressive, otherwise they end up like poor Brad Paisley and the schtick wears off eventually.

not according to the callout scores, CP was right there in the pack with the songs that are going to #1.The difference is Carrie is female and CP has a distinctive female point of view.Radio didn't seem to cotton to that.

 

[pklongbeach]

You’re all too extreme about these positions.

I don't know what this means....too extreme? about what? And who's "YOU"RE ALL.."?

 

[liz278]

Do you all think that the wider, mainstream country audience just really didn't like CP? I hate to generalize a whole base of people that listen to country, because I have been one of those people at times in my life, but it does seem like the mainstream country audience just wants their artists to stay in their little boxes and put out the same kind of music over and over. I mean, even Keith Urban, who is probably one of the progressive men out there has done it VERY gradually and really it still sounds like pretty classic Keith Urban, just maybe a bit poppier. Luke always sounds the same. Kenny. FGL. Jason Aldean's newer music may sound better than some of his more recent stuff, but really it just sounds like the "old" Jason before bro country took over - back when I actually liked Jason's music and he first came out. Do you think that maybe the general, mainstream country music audience just can't deal with a new sound from Carrie? They like maneater Carrie and inspirational Carrie, but they aren't used to a more emotional, introspective Carrie, so they didn't get on board with CP? It's just speculation on my part, but country music, more than any other genre, I think, likes it's artists to stay in their lane.

Personally, I'm all for artists evolving and staying fresh/progressive, otherwise they end up like poor Brad Paisley and the schtick wears off eventually.

I totally agree with all this!

If you listen to country radio it all sounds the same. The guys all follow a formula. And if you don't follow the formula you don't do well on the radio.

 

[carriethequeen]

I think what happened here is a combination of many things... it was like the "perfect storm" that made CP Carrie's lowest peaking radio single. I think it's fair to say the song debuted fantastically (ACM performance, #1 on Digital Songs) but then quickly died out. It remained below 100 on iTunes and was no where to be found on the streaming songs charts. I don't think it connected with the general public like a real hit. However, A TON of songs that don't sell/stream well hit #1 on radio... and they're all from male artists. Sadly, I think CP was "too female" for country radio programmers, which is a shame and makes no sense at all. I really thought UMG would get this to #1 up until a few weeks ago when Luke shot past her. So I blame country radio, UMG, and the song itself (melodically, it lacks for me despite the great vocals). So again, a perfect storm of factors... EXCITED FOR LOVE WINS THOUGH!

 

[CU4ever]

I'm very excited to move on to Love Wins, which I'm sure will be a smash, but at the same time it's a bit sad the streak has been broken. Nonetheless, 13+ years into Carrie's career, only having one song miss the top 3 is something very few can accomplish.

 

[mgbjr]

I'm very excited to move on to Love Wins, which I'm sure will be a smash, but at the same time it's a bit sad the streak has been broken. Nonetheless, 13+ years into Carrie's career, only having one song miss the top 3 is something very few can accomplish.

It’s something NO ONE has accomplished, other than Carrie I believe. I’d need a fact check on that though

 

[CU4ever]

It’s something NO ONE has accomplished, other than Carrie I believe. I’d need a fact check on that though

I don’t believe anyone has! Top ten for every single has to be a tiny list as well

 

[PRGuy79]

Moving forward, it makes me even more anxious. Always before, I assumed the label would do everything possible to ensure the chart track record remained unblemished. Now, it feels like every song will truly be determined on a case-by-case basis. Nothing can ever be taken for granted from this point on.

 

[gwade82]

please try and stay positive
UMG might have made a miscalculation in timing but so far they are supporting Carrie just fine

AS I previously stated, the may not have had an option due to Carrie's accident and now the pregnancy . It is possible this is all they could have done. I will wait and see what happens.

 

[teesharky]

Moving forward, it makes me even more anxious. Always before, I assumed the label would do everything possible to ensure the chart track record remained unblemished. Now, it feels like every song will truly be determined on a case-by-case basis. Nothing can ever be taken for granted from this point on.

Agree. If UMG cannot get better results with the next single- I will be very worried. I am hoping this was a one off fluke.

 

[sweetsugarcandyman]

It’s a pretty disappointing start to a new era.

 

[teesharky]

The sad harsh reality is that the men in country music can release the ABCs and whatever trash they like and radio will keep giving them number ones. Carrie and other females are scrutinized on a case by case basis per song- and the judges are backward old guard pricks.

Even Kelsea is struggling on radio this era whereas she got number 1s for her debut album. I guess radio is getting even worse towards women instead of better. So much for Salad Gate. No one cares. Things are getting worse- even for Carrie.

 

[teesharky]

It’s a pretty disappointing start to a new era.

Agree. And what kills me is that the label let Luke just pass Carrie without trying to hold him
back to help her. Their push at the end was too little too late.

But I will give them one more chance and wait to see what happens with single 2. If this happens again we have a problem. I am hoping it was just a one off occurrence because the old guard controlling radio didn’t want to play a female empowerment song.