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Mike Fisher

PRGuy79

Well-known member
This is infuriating. As a former hockey player, his platform is limited at best, but as the husband of Carrie Underwood, many more people care than they would otherwise. It has the power to harm her career. And for that reason, I think it is a very selfish decision to weigh in. Does he have the right? Sure. But should his concern for negative attention for Carrie prompt him to keep it in check? I say, "yes". Why are they choosing to get involved now? I just don't get it. This isn't helpful or productive - and is actually harmful by contributing to doubts about the vaccine. It is the opposite of what they should be using their platform for. I am so disappointed.
 

adam1995

Well-known member
Hey everyone I love carrie to bits and I know everyone has a right to there opinions, but as carrie's husband he needs to be more careful and don't be blantly honest, With false lies that are killing people.Hey everyone I love carrie to bits and I know everyone has a right to there opinions, but as carrie's husband he needs to be more careful and don't be blantly honest, With false lies that are killing people.View attachment 31666
What false lies?

People need to stop assuming a different option or opinion is a lie. People with the vaccine can still spread the virus, so the vaccine will not end the virus. If it helps decrease the symptoms great, but if someone wants to risk that for themselves, why can't they? I just don't understand why people who have been vaccinated are so angry at those that haven't? Especially if you can get the virus either way, vaccinated or not.
 

adam1995

Well-known member
This is infuriating. As a former hockey player, his platform is limited at best, but as the husband of Carrie Underwood, many more people care than they would otherwise. It has the power to harm her career. And for that reason, I think it is a very selfish decision to weigh in. Does he have the right? Sure. But should his concern for negative attention for Carrie prompt him to keep it in check? I say, "yes". Why are they choosing to get involved now? I just don't get it. This isn't helpful or productive - and is actually harmful by contributing to doubts about the vaccine. It is the opposite of what they should be using their platform for. I am so disappointed.
At this point though, those that haven't got the vaccine likely aren't. So, I don't really think it increases hesitancy. It's been available and anyone can get it. We need to move on from this pandemic panic. The worst is most definitely over, that is clear. We need to stop worrying about other people's decisions. They are theirs to make, not ours.
 

maryleepj

Active member
Like most people who spread misinformation, he needs to do more research. His statement that vaccinated people are just as likely to spread Covid as unvaccinated people is simply not true. Yes, there is a chance you could still get and spread Covid even if vaccinated, but the chances of your getting Covid in the first place are far far less when vaccinated so the ratio of people you could infect is far far smaller. People are certainly entitled to their opinion but should not spread misinformation.
 

adam1995

Well-known member
Like most people who spread misinformation, he needs to do more research. His statement that vaccinated people are just as likely to spread Covid as unvaccinated people is simply not true. Yes, there is a chance you could still get and spread Covid even if vaccinated, but the chances of your getting Covid in the first place are far far less when vaccinated so the ratio of people you could infect is far far smaller. People are certainly entitled to their opinion but should not spread misinformation.
1st bold- This is misinformation. The there have been studies that found this very thing to be true.
2nd bold- So, why are people freaking over the unvaccinated if the vaccinated's chances of getting it are "far far less"? That's the issue at hand. If someone is vaccinated and essentially very much protected, what are they worried about.
 

mbh

Well-known member
Here is the recent study of the vaccinated and unvaccinated people and the RATE OF SPREAD:

Vaccinated People Can Transmit the Coronavirus, but It’s Still More Likely If You’re Unvaccinated​

CLICK and read:
 

txacar

Well-known member
1st bold- This is misinformation. The there have been studies that found this very thing to be true.
2nd bold- So, why are people freaking over the unvaccinated if the vaccinated's chances of getting it are "far far less"? That's the issue at hand. If someone is vaccinated and essentially very much protected, what are they worried about.
I can't remember a time, such as now, when everyone seems to be searching for something to quote and criticize. Actually, Mike was correct according to the science until it was reversed October 1 after a study by Pfizer.* That said, I didn't even pick up on vaccinated v. unvaccinated spread of Covid. His main point was disagreement with mandated vaccinations that force people to lose their jobs if they don't comply with a mandate that violates their right to make personal health decisions. As for Carrie's career, she survived her own publicly stated opinion on meat industry, as well as mandated masks for children (gossip, of course, has forgotten the masks and she's labelled anti-vax).

*Pfizer study also found that infected people with just one shot are still as likely to spread covid as unvaccinated.
 

adam1995

Well-known member
I can't remember a time, such as now, when everyone seems to be searching for something to quote and criticize. Actually, Mike was correct according to the science until it was reversed October 1 after a study by Pfizer.* That said, I didn't even pick up on vaccinated v. unvaccinated spread of Covid. His main point was disagreement with mandated vaccinations that force people to lose their jobs if they don't comply with a mandate that violates their right to make personal health decisions. As for Carrie's career, she survived her own publicly stated opinion on meat industry, as well as mandated masks for children (gossip, of course, has forgotten the masks and she's labelled anti-vax).

*Pfizer study also found that infected people with just one shot are still as likely to spread covid as unvaccinated.
Yes, and the root is the mandate taking away someone's right to work. That's wrong, plain and simple.
 

PRGuy79

Well-known member
They have the right to work if they follow the rules. It's not rocket science. We all have to follow rules to be employed - i.e. getting certain certifications, not having violated the law, etc. And we've been required to get vaccinated before (i.e. polio, mumps, rubella, etc.). Imagine the mess we'd be in if people were as selfish and egotistical as they are now and refused to be vaccinated for small pox. It's not that complicated and I'm sick of the whining. Get vaccinated for yourself and for your neighbor so we can move on from this nightmare. It would be wonderful if people would do it without a mandate. But we've proved our selfishness and ignorance as a society, so the mandates will be necessary to help turn the page.
 

txacar

Well-known member
They have the right to work if they follow the rules. It's not rocket science. We all have to follow rules to be employed - i.e. getting certain certifications, not having violated the law, etc. And we've been required to get vaccinated before (i.e. polio, mumps, rubella, etc.). Imagine the mess we'd be in if people were as selfish and egotistical as they are now and refused to be vaccinated for small pox. It's not that complicated and I'm sick of the whining. Get vaccinated for yourself and for your neighbor so we can move on from this nightmare. It would be wonderful if people would do it without a mandate. But we've proved our selfishness and ignorance as a society, so the mandates will be necessary to help turn the page.
 

liz278

Well-known member
I wasn't going to weigh in on this, but here goes.
1. When did we become this way? Someone can't disagree, so we cancel them. If I did that I wouldn't be able to do anything.
2. I just read a report by all the vaccines, they are not very effective after 6 months. When we are able to sue the drug companies that manufacture the vaccine, I think you will see a few more people getting the vaccine. I am vaccinated but I don't want to have to get a booster every 6 months. Plus it's not in the mainstream news but there have been some bad reactions and deaths due to the vaccine. If the news reported these, you would not be able to get anybody else to take the vaccine.
3. I don't like mandatory for work or for being able to go to a restaurant. Because a lot of minority groups are not vaccinated, this then becomes another way to exclude people from places.
4. I think we all need to start living a more healthy lifestyle. Take the vitamins that will help your immune system. If we all started living a little more healthy and quit eating junk food. People in the Scandinavian nations are now without mandatory rules and they are living a pretty normal life. Maybe we should learn something from them.
 

adam1995

Well-known member
They have the right to work if they follow the rules. It's not rocket science. We all have to follow rules to be employed - i.e. getting certain certifications, not having violated the law, etc. And we've been required to get vaccinated before (i.e. polio, mumps, rubella, etc.). Imagine the mess we'd be in if people were as selfish and egotistical as they are now and refused to be vaccinated for small pox. It's not that complicated and I'm sick of the whining. Get vaccinated for yourself and for your neighbor so we can move on from this nightmare. It would be wonderful if people would do it without a mandate. But we've proved our selfishness and ignorance as a society, so the mandates will be necessary to help turn the page.
There should be no rule that tells you to inject yourself with something that you are uncomfortable with. What happened to body autonomy? My body, my choice and all that.

Plus, this vaccine is not like the others. They have been around and tested thoroughly, this one has been out one year, and had less than a year of testing, you really can't blame some for being hesitant. A little more understanding and kindness would go a long way.
 

adam1995

Well-known member

PRGuy79

Well-known member
Probably because they’re trying to cancel her on Twitter as we speak

There should be no rule that tells you to inject yourself with something that you are uncomfortable with. What happened to body autonomy? My body, my choice and all that.
Then get another job somewhere else if you don't like your employer's mandate. But the employer also has a right to issue the mandate to protect their employees from selfish people who only care about themselves.
 

jbrown

Active member
They're backing him up.
They can’t fire him or they are going to face a big lawsuit. Your health record including the status of your vaccination is none of anybody’s business, it is confidential and it is between you and your Dr. It is a violation of your rights and employment rights to be forced to receive medical treatment against your will nor asked to leave your employment without pay if you refused the experimental drug. Read about Nuremberg code. In. Canada, we the people are winning against these unlawful mandates. Few provinces provinces now have stopped mandating health care workers to get vaccinated. Workers in New Brunswick just won the case about these mandates and unpaid leave. People are fighting back. Nov 8-11 is the walk out from the jobs protest, the matrix needs to collapse. The power has always been with We the People. Hold the line Patriots, we are getting through.
 

jbrown

Active member
Then get another job somewhere else if you don't like your employer's mandate. But the employer also has a right to issue the mandate to protect their employees from selfish people who only care about themselves.
I disagreed, the employers are violating the labour code and rights. The employee‘s status of vaccination is confidential. it is unlawful to force someone to get injected with experimental drug per Nuremberg code. The companies and bosses are getting big bucks like big big amount of money to promote this unlawful mandates.
 

PRGuy79

Well-known member
I disagreed, the employers are violating the labour code and rights. The employee‘s status of vaccination is confidential. it is unlawful to force someone to get injected with experimental drug per Nuremberg code. The companies and bosses are getting big bucks like big big amount of money to promote this unlawful mandates.
It's not an experimental drug. It has been approved by the FDA and administered to hundreds of millions of people worldwide. Please stop with the Q'Anon conspiracy theories.
 

CU4ever

Well-known member
Why does there even have to be this debate? There is no wrong or right. One person shouldn’t be able to say “I’m right , the vaccine is safe everyone has to get it and if you don’t you’re a terrible horrible person” (people are saying awful things about Carrie online) , just as someone shouldn’t say “nobody get the vaccine”. To each their own. And if someone disagrees- so what?
 
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